Anschutz Beavertail 1416 With 2 Stage 5098 Trigger Review

Anschutz 1710 Loftier End .22lr

08 Feb 2016
@ 03:41 pm (GMT)

Ricardo Laborin

Honey All,

I'm in the market for a loftier terminate .22, every bit a pocket-size game, plinking and general shooting tool. I take a CZ that shoots great, merely, and this is a big but, I'chiliad gunning for pinnacle of the notch technology.

Whatever of you has been exposed to the Anschutz 1710, gotta trust the Germans on that 1. Propose appreciated.

Saludos!

Ricardo.

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08 Feb 2016
@ 07:10 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High Cease .22lr

The 1710 is a great burglarize but so far I have not shot one of them. The one below (from their U.s. web site) I take shot locally and its accuracy and everything almost it was very adept indeed. I actually like the two stage 5098 trigger.

1416 G 18" Threaded - Beavertail New..!!

MSRP: $1299.00
Caliber: .22lr
System: 64 bolt action repeater, 5098 two-stage trigger, blued finish.
Weight: 6 lbs, 4 oz.
Barrel Length: 18" heavy weight barrel, threaded 1/2" ten 28 tpi, no fe sight provision.
Magazine Capacity: 5
Stock Fashion: Beavertail walnut.

08 Feb 2016
@ 07:43 pm (GMT)

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Warwick Marflitt

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Ricardo I'd stick with the Cz mate. Design the action, fit a match grade barrel and a nice Sightron scope! You'll finish up with a super accurate 22LR. Just my ten cent opinion.!

09 Feb 2016
@ 12:eighteen am (GMT)

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Helmut Pleiter

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Hi Ricardo
At present if the expert people at Anschuetz could bring themselves to manufacture a 22lr for hunting with a Fortner direct pull action and a big capacity compact magazine, than I would exist really interested in having a look. But up until now they are only doing that with the .17HMR and a 4 or 5 shot mag.
I take looked at the website in the biathlon department, and plain they do sell parts for those rifles. One could perchance go the custom route, but I haven't been able to locate whatever retailers, fifty-fifty in Deutschland.
Coming dorsum to your question: If you are later elevation notch technology unremarkably combined with rather nice timber, and so become for information technology. From a practical indicate of view, Warwick is probably right; you lot tin can only clasp so much accuracy out of the trusty former 22lr, and an accurised CZ will probably have yous there.
Thank you, Helmut

09 February 2016
@ 06:41 am (GMT)

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Thomas Kitchen

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

howdy ricardo.
please bank check total details of any burglarize your considering, expect for design and recoil lugs every bit Nathan talks most in his books.
the anschutz looks expert circular receiver and remington/savage sandwich style recoil lug.

lithgow of australia accept just brought out a 22lr with a high price around $1200nz (cz'south are around $800nz) and every thing about this gun seems incorrect its so badly designed you would call back at that place cricket squad had something to do with it (pitiful ya ozzie only might also get a kick in while your down ha ha).
even at that place trigger system is so bad they will sell you a second spring to reduce pull weight but those 2 springs are your only options

09 February 2016
@ 01:20 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High Cease .22lr

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Ricardo I'd stick with the Cz mate. Pattern the action, fit a match grade barrel and a nice Sightron scope! You'll end up with a super accurate 22LR. Just my 10 cent stance.!

if you check Rimfire Central.com yous volition notation the CZ rifles are not ever perfect, and many people who frequent those forums are epoxy bedding with pillars too as installing Lija friction match barrels.

In contrast, I have not seen an Anchutz that needed the actress attending, and the main issues are a lack of options for afterward market place parts to amend on things like triggers, although given the two stage is darned good, I am non sure information technology is needed.

09 Feb 2016
@ 06:16 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High Terminate .22lr

I simply checked out the online Anschutz custom shop in Los Vagas USA. They are about 6 months behind on things in that location and had photos and specs of some nice looking rifles. I did also note that the rifles I read about there all had epoxy bedding jobs and the single stage or dual stage match triggers.

http://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/custom-store.html

09 Feb 2016
@ x:28 pm (GMT)

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Martin Taylor

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Bedded 6 CZ'southward to become them shooting consistently with different ammo types, 22lr & 22mag. Overrated as a standard factory burglarize me's thinks.
Triggers are average & machining finish is rubbish. They all shot well after but they took some work.
The Anschutz is a well machined burglarize with a good trigger and a classic design that will bed easily (call up Remington style). Big $ for a 22 though!

As for the Lithgow's.......... I'Two seize with teeth and 50 won't wait for the crowd to change the umpires listen, hahahahaaa.
They look a scrap crazy with the stock blueprint!! and yes you need to go the $11 spring to lower the trigger weight, only at to the lowest degree they offering a factory option unlike most others. The action is very smoothen and the two l take tried shot very well with a nice crisp trigger (lite leap). I didn't get to split the action from the stock (to look at design) but the machining quality and stop was excellent. Out of my $ range merely l'd accept one in the rubber.

10 Feb 2016
@ 12:11 am (GMT)

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Michael Rayner

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

A had a CZ 22 for a few years, was a proficient of burglarize not a great i, trigger was pretty awful lots of creep. Best 24-hour interval I had with information technology was when a club guy told me to weight sort my ammo and it blew my mind at 100 meters. Yous might want to try that and supervene upon the trigger commencement. I replaced it with a Ruger 17 hmr varmint that has been fantastic if I use only one brand of ammo, especially one time I replaced the trigger spring and sear. My cousin is a very skilful small bore club shooter and if I was serious about modest bore I'd have to get an Anschutz or I think he said Weihrauch. If you can get that Anschutz I'm sure you won't be disappointed, and if yous have a small bore gild nearby I'd pop downwardly and have a chat to some of them too.

10 Feb 2016
@ 06:sixteen am (GMT)

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Thomas Kitchen

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

y'all might be on to something martin with some good things about the crossover peculiarly fit and cease.
looking into it, it has a recoil lug dovetailed into the activity that the back action spiral feeds through its all a bit odd.
http://www.lithgowarms.com/guns-and-game-magazine-review-of-the-la101-crossover/ this shows action out of the stock

the ruger 77/22 have skillful reputation non sure if the mid mounted bolt lugs makes the difference, the accept scaled the activeness upward now for 44mag and 357mag.

10 February 2016
@ 03:39 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

For the CZ .22LR rifles, here is a link to a decent trigger that i know works well.

http://riflebasix.com/production/ceska-zbrojovka-452-trigger-cz-52/

fits 452 and 455 CZ rifles.

x Feb 2016
@ 03:42 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Martin is correct about the ease of bedding the Annie. Mine was really simple to practice and does .25 inch groups at 50 meters.

10 Feb 2016
@ 09:32 pm (GMT)

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Martin Taylor

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

My old Norinco has a dovetailed recoil lug only information technology'due south in the barrel! A cheap partial copy of a Brono/CZ in some ways but it shoots well and very consistently after bedding. The Anshcutz is definitely the ameliorate design than either!

I have establish the harmonics of the different loads ie; subsonic v loftier velocity really plays havoc with most unbedded 22'south. PIO jumps in all sorts of directions along with grouping size.

My CZ 22mag deluxe was a peachy instance, wish 50 had a moving picture of the target l shot with 5 dissimilar brands of ammo. Using the aforementioned aim point it walked all over the card in distinct groups past inches at 50 metres with the Hornady Vmax centred @ 1.5". After bedding all groups tightened (Vmax .75) and PIO only moved vertically with very slight horizontal changes.

10 February 2016
@ xi:10 pm (GMT)

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Nathan Foster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High Cease .22lr

Another interesting discussion.

The chief point that we need to accept into consideration is that you lot cannot mitt load a .22 and tune loads to the butt.

Options include testing a range of ammo- which can be a pain if you lot are a culler / commercial hunter and need to focus on only a few brands of budget ammo or those that kill the best equally apposed to small hollow point types.

Or every bit suggested (and a slap-up idea), weight sort your ammo.

Beyond this, you have lilliputian control besides the usual bedding and trigger piece of work.

So should you buy the almost expensive rifle? Well this is again tough because all rifles like different ammo. A pocket-size game culler could for instance purchase a loftier cease burglarize, just to discover that the rifle just likes x make of ammo which he doesn't want to use due to costs or difficulty obtaining a decent supply. The same tin can happen with cheaper rifles too of course. My indicate is, without being able to control the ammo, you are at the mercy of factory components. There is no guarantee that your burglarize volition shoot much less than ane" at 50 yards with the ammo yous want to use. Its a fingers crossed game.

I have had a good run with Anschutz in the past but likewise a practiced run with CZ, though I practise prefer the former for reasons others accept outlined. I have found Anschutz to be the to the lowest degree choosy with a diverseness of loads- but then I have seen some CZ's shoot (winchester subs) into one ragged hole at 50 yards. You accept all answered this topic with valid points.

From my ain perspective, fast handling and a loftier magazine capacity are a must so I tend to work with the Ruger 10/22. Furthermore, Steph is a lefty and she has in the past also used the .22 for commercial piece of work. The 10/22 tin can be a pain to work through simply one time all the piece of work is washed, it serves our purpose.

Marty'south QC points should be taken into due consideration, some very skillful points throughout this thread.

This is something that Helmut and I regularly hash out at length equally we have and do use the .22 commercially. Commercial piece of work really puts rifles to the test, correct down to such factors as using a blued barrel in the evening / dark when moisture / rust is a concern, fur in the activeness, carbon build up, bedding, shot to kill ratio from dark to night and calendar week to week, shot to kill ratio versus u.s. (our skill on the night) versus the performance of the ammo versus the inherent accuracy of the rifle. And the big one- price of rifle versus the "gamble" of the rifle shooting our preferred ammo accurately.

In summary, if y'all can't change the loads, you may accept to alter the burglarize whether that means accurizing, rebarreling or trading.

eleven Feb 2016
@ 02:46 pm (GMT)

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Ricardo Laborin

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Super useful responses and info. To be honest, this .22 is not intended for "high volume" shooting past Kiwi standards, small game density over here in Mexico is non comparable - but - antelope jackrabbits are huge and sporting during the day.

Although my CZ shoots, it's non pretty by whatsoever standard, carrying over information technology'south erstwhile Soviet beginnings I believe. The Anschutz, on the other mitt, is beautiful. So functioning and looks are the drivers...

Saludos!

xi Feb 2016
@ 08:29 pm (GMT)

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Bryan Webster

Re: Anschutz 1710 High End .22lr

Nathan summed it up nicely. My approach with a Ruger 10/22 I bought effectually 8 years ago was to more recently have it out of its hiding place in the back of my gun safe, put a Shilen barrel on information technology, added a Victor Visitor USA stock on information technology which stabilizes the rear of the activity and provides a well designed aluminum block for the front of the receiver, and a good telescopic.

And so after chasing accuracy by shooting a few dozen boxes of different brands, I plant that Lapua CenterX rounds shot into a ragged hole at 50 years, so I bought a case of 5,000 rounds all from ane lot. It will terminal me awhile all correct. Does a wonderful chore on head shooting upland game birds, rabbits, gophers, and targets besides. The lower velocity seems to put downwards modest game very fast - much like the old .22 shorts I used to shoot from an aboriginal Cooey .22 lr many years agone.

12 Feb 2016
@ 08:50 pm (GMT)

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Warwick Marflitt

Re: Anschutz 1710 Loftier End .22lr

Ricardo as long every bit it works faultlessly and is authentic . Does how it looks actually matter?
The best 22LR I've found factory standard.... for mag capacity 21rounds of 22shorts. 15 rounds 22Long Rifle. Pinpoint accuracy(Winchester Hushpower ammo) and handy handling (Opossum shooting) was my BC Miroku22 Lever action a Japanese fabricated BL22 Browning . Best round count 45possums with 46 shots.
Non semi motorcar so no alive round always in the chamber quick and quiet with suppressor to use. Easy to uncock hammer for safety. The only downside is its wearisome to reload 21 cartridges into the tube mag. So i would top it upward betwixt copse. A very applied tool that did its job well. It's stuck in Australia thanks to the Queensland police stuffing me around when Ive practical for permit to get it and 3 other guns back to NZ . None of them know what to practice? So my Brother has them in his safe.
I took a Winchester 63 semi-auto22 out for a shot concluding night boy is it authentic and its 79 years old!!!!!!! made in 1937...... $450 Its not pretty. Been put away wet or another event. But its a shooter.

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